"DIABOLICAL MASQUERADE
Is Like My Little Whore I Go To
Whenever I Need Some Exclusive Pleasure!"
Blackheim.
Have
you heard about Mr. Blackheim lately? He is said to have become a sort of
pompous, bloated, puffy, narcissistic «star». Wanna add something? May be
«pretentious»? Or you like «hoity-toity» better? It looks like his main band
KATATONIA will instead play on the same stage with ROXETTE. He has also quitted
BEWITCHED, probably because the word «thrash» sounds like «trash» for him now.
He still has his extreme project DIABOLICAL MASQUERADE left, but he, too, knows
that sympho-black is popular today. So, may be it’s all for money? Well, folks,
Mr. Blackheim is here to dot «i’s» and cross «t’s».
Actually,
before we start talking about DIABOLICAL MASQUERADE, could you tell our readers
about the project's background? Why did you decide to create a solo project?
What music did you want to develop in DIABOLICAL MASQUERADE?
The
idea to create DIABOLICAL MASQUERADE hit my mind somewhere back in 1993, but the
plans remained on an imaginary level until about late 1994 when I sincerely
started focusing on the project plus giving it the attention it deserved. The
project was formed and basically still exists for the single reason that the
stuff I perform isn’t suitable for my main band KATATONIA. I realized I was
ending up throwing away plenty of good ideas just because they didn’t fit the
concept of KATATONIA. So, to explore the other shades of darkness, I decided to
brainstorm with DIABOLICAL MASQUERADE in order to cover a wider spectrum of
music. I was filled with this great hunger to perform twisted and aggressive
music and the only way to still that hunger was to form a side project. It’s
like my little whore I go to whenever I need some exclusive pleasure!!!
You
have recorded all your albums with a well-known personality in the underground
- Dan Swano. How could you characterize him? Was it difficult for the two
famous persons to work together? Did you argue a lot?
Hardly
any arguments, just a few fights! No, just kidding... Well, it’s been pretty
easy working with Swano, but occasionally he can be hard to deal with too if
his mind is off somewhere else. He’s pretty much in a constant change of
attitude and that can of itself become a problem. He’s also very very
melodic/logical minded and can have problems accepting some disharmonies.
However, he’s a genius and I owe a lot to him after all the work down there. I
first met Swano when we recorded our first KATATONIA demo back in 1992 and
since we grew experienced in that studio working with him as a
producer/engineer we just kept on holding the tradition live. Honestly, I think
it would be uncomfortable for DIABOLICAL MASQUERADE to break up this
collaboration and go somewhere else with other producers/engineers and I’m very
grateful, as a an outsider, to have recorded the new album at The Sanctuary as
Unisound is officially closed down for good. Speaking of that, it was a nice
surprise to experience that The Sanctuary worked and sounded better than
Unisound ever did! I mean, you can easily hear that «Nightwork» got the best
productions. Isn’t that pretty ironic considering Unisound was opened for
business and The Sanctuary is only functioning as a home studio courtesy of Dan
Swano?!? Anyway, it’s been a pleasure teaming up with Swano for these albums.
In
general, whom did you invite as session musicians to record your latest album?
Well,
as it’s a fact there are instruments I don’t master, instruments I really
wanted featured on the albums in order to color the end result, so I invited a
couple of session musicians already on the «The Phantom Lodge» album. Two of
them also graced the new album some of their skills. My last drummer, Sean
Bates, whom I used on the last album, was a very creative and professional musician
and when he said he wouldn’t be able to participate on «Nightwork» I figured
out DIABOLICAL MASQUERADE would be suffering a big loss since he’d be hard to
match. A new drummer would be hard to find and I really didn’t want to return
using a drum-machine and then all suddenly the problem was solved in a second
as Dan Swano himself offered to give it a try, mind you, his main instrument
has always been drums. I totally hooked on the idea and was convinced pretty
much right away. The bottom line is that as long as something will improve for
the better and I’m incapable of doing it myself, I’ll gladly invite a session
musician for a helping hand.
As
far as I know, the first two albums were released by the French label... I
guess the label was not enough honest with you, am I right? Could you elaborate
on the question and tell us your opinion on the underground labels in general:
pros and cons.
The
thing with the former label is that I don’t have and never had any good
relation to them, which has got to do with their behavior. At a particularly
early stage it seemed that they were about to do a fine work for DIABOLICAL
MASQUERADE, but now with the facts at hand, it’s totally clear to me that I
made a mistake signing to Adipocere. They’ve been running this collaboration
very unprofessionally! They seem to have problems with being a label, which
naturally means you’re obligated to be more than just a fucking CD factory!
Being signed to a label that disconnects all communication makes anyone sick
and tired. I still have to be at their backs though because they still owe me
my royalties. The only positive aspect in this collaboration would be that
DIABOLICAL MASQUERADE got established through these two releases, but it could
just as well been by the help from another label. I urge people to stay away
from these people. The music industry SUCKS! You can’t trust many beings in
this world...
Why
did you decide to switch to Avantgarde? Were they good enough to be trusted?
It
was the right thing. I’ve known Roberto since the early days when we started
KATATONIA and some years ago he offered us a slot on some European tour he was
planning back in 1994. And since we were without a contract at the time we
agreed that we’d promote KATATONIA through a new EP called «For Funerals To
Come» on his label, but then tour got canceled and Roberto really wanted to
release the EP anyway and from that point KATATONIA established a good deal and
a long collaboration. Moving over to Avantgarde Music with DIABOLICAL
MASQUERADE was therefor the easiest choice I’ve ever made. Basically, the deal
with Adipocere expired and Roberto expressed his interest and the deal was
done.
From
the present point of view, how could you comment on your albums? A few words
about each album, pointing out some good and bad (if there are any) sides...
Regarding
«Ravendusk In My Heart». At that time I just wanted to make an extreme, but
atmospheric album in the vein of EMPEROR, old BATHORY and early KATATONIA. It’s
significantly the most black metallic album of the three. I still like it, but
if I could I would have exchanged the drum-machine for a real drummer. It tends
to get a little bit stiff after a while. The song «Under the Banner of the
Sentinel» was a pure heavy metal song and was a bit odd to appear on such an
album at its time. As for «The Phantom Lodge» I’m extremely satisfied with this
piece. It’s a very nice listening! Actually, one of the albums I personally
like listen to. It’s like a continuity of the debut, but with a step further in
every aspect. It has an improved production, even more varied material with
both thrash/heavy metal and folk music elements alongside the black stuff.
Everything is just a bit better on this one. I wouldn’t like to change anything
on it. The drums are killer! Moving over to «Nightwork». Finally, I felt it was
my task to create a «metal soundtrack» to the concept of horror and I’m pleased
to see that people are appreciating it. In difference to my past material, I
felt my ideas didn’t come across good enough in faster paces. It didn’t do the
music any justice and I decided to drop the blast beats on through the whole
album. Instead, I set focus on more mid-paced oriented material and discovered
how the riffs instantly flew out like bullets! On top of that, I think that the
keyboard-work finally became a strong ingredient in the music as it boosts the
eerie concept to the maximum. Also, I’ve juxtaposed a lot more diverse mood
changes on this one. I figured out it would create variety, attract the
listeners and capture their attention. I like to surprise people with
unexpected things, sort of like a roller coaster ride; People should not expect
what’s behind the next corner! On the other hand, I also value stuff being
catchy, stuff with a lot of groove and swing. Stuff that makes you hooked! If
an album lack these things it will soon turn into a very mediocre listening and
isn’t that some of the worst things that could ever happen to a record? I think
this album has a balance of both the catchy stuff and the unpredictable moments
and thus makes it a very delicate piece of music. With the «Nightwork» concept
I feel I’ve escaped the risk of repeating myself and right now I’m excited to
venture deeper into it. Picking out one song, I’d say «The Eerie Obzidian
Cirkuz» is probably the most freaked-out track on the album. At least it got
some true frenzy and insane moments! The story of the song (just as the others)
is an eerie and wicked little thing. Well, there is this traveling circus, seen
from the outside as a jolly happy company. As the circus comes to town, they
blind the eyes of children with devious visions and plant temptations in their
minds. But we all know there’s always another side of a coin and in reality the
circus is nothing but a false front for the devil man and his faceless beggars.
The message of the song is that once you enter you’ll never return. You’re
damned to watch the most petrifying show you could ever imagine...and the best
part is that the show never ends...(ha ha!) How’s that? Concerning the album
titles. Well, as a sign that something is not what it should be... I decided to
convert the letters because I figured the titles spelled the wrong way made
them look a bit more closer to an "alien tongue", but I probably just
made them look Mexican or something, ha ha! Anyway, I «guezz» it turned out
«zikk» and «thuz» I like it!
Ouh,
yezz! I gott da i-dear! I guess all your albums comprise a sort of a conceptual
trilogy... Am I right? Do these albums have anything in common?
Actually
the truth is, that by «Nightwork» I’ve severed the connection to the lyrical
concept I kept on the two previous albums. On those I based everything on
myself as the main character, of course on a fantasy level. Considering
everything was about myself and done by myself, it convinced me I was doing a
solo-project, an expression for my alter-ego. The place and time for the
stories also took part strictly in medieval periods as adventures filled with
castles, knights, Vikings, swords and magic and so on. As you can see, stuff
entirely built upon fiction and fueled by the darker corners of my mind. While
doing «The Phantom Lodge», I felt I was more drawn to real «hammer horror»
stuff and started mixing that up with the medieval adventures and tried to
avoid all the «Blackheim titles» featured on the debut as it got too
repetitive. After that album I really had enough of the old concept and wanted
to give room entirely for the horror concept and that resulted in «Nightwork».
Just as in the past, each song is like a little tale on it’s own and all
together they become separate «works of the night» and thus the album title. I
guess the inspiration for the change of concept has been coming from all the
horror movies/soundtracks I collect here.
Considering
the titles of your albums and songs, one can assume that ghosts and «dark»
creatures really interest you. Is it correct?
I’m
into the darkside...Honestly, I’m not really into it by desire, I’m more like
haunted by it! I believe the darkside is right here in this room, but in
another dimension and sometimes our dimensions attach and connect for a few
seconds. «The Spirits», which is the most accurate form of description, have
been present several times during nocturnal hours also in the studio. This
serves as a fuel for DIABOLICAL MASQUERADE and personal terror/fascination.
What
is your attitude towards Christianity? What do you think of religions as a
whole?
I’m
not a monger of Christianity nor religions. I loathe the entirety of it and I
can’t bother to motivate it more than that because I can’t see what’s
interesting in me preaching about the negative sides of Christianity. There are
so many other people who like to expand their views upon the subject, I chose
not to. It’s too far out!
DIABOLICAL
MASQUERADE - one might believe you wanted to point out that you are a
Satanist...
Is
that so? Well, DIABOLICAL MASQUERADE, as the name it is, can be interpreted in
more ways than one. If you think about it, you turn and twist it’s meaning into
almost whatever you like. As for an presumable satanic aspect of it, well I
believe the whole impression is more on the Anti-Christian side in that case
and so, obviously, the things I do comes out in such a way, but it’s not
something I put to much effort into or strive to express. Nothing to point out
at all. It has no values to me. It’s just there by natural causes.
You
happened to play with BEWITCHED for some time. What sort of musical activity
was that cooperation for you? Why did you decide not to work with this band any
longer?
Because
of the two reasons mainly. The first being that this whole ‘80s retro-wave has
already become fucking hackneyed! Retro-bands are popping up from everywhere,
so I’m pretty fed up with it all. Well, BEWITCHED was great fun, but I guess it
all got to point where I lost the passion. You see, BEWITCHED quickly gained
popularity and grew bigger than expected and thus it started to interfere with
KATATONIA’s activities. I didn’t wanna roam the European lands with a side
project only and that’s the reason number two. The point with BEWITCHED was
basically to do a one-off studio visit in the way of killing time and have some
great fun, but it got more serious than that and well...I think the other guys
will rock on fine even though I’m no longer involved. They know how to do it.
Do
you make enough money playing music or you work part time somewhere?
I
don’t have a job and I don’t get enough money through the music. I’m living
like a retired old man to make it work, ha ha!
I
hear you have created your own label... What have you already released? Why did
you decide to create a label?
I
created a label to be able to release my own stuff if that’s what I desire. I
haven’t put out anything yet, but have some plans....Time shall tell.
As
a matter of fact, you have never toured with DIABOLICAL MASQUERADE. How could
you comment on that fact? Is it your personal point not to tour a lot?
I’m
of course thrilled by the idea of performing a few concerts with DIABOLICAL
MASQUERADE since I’m sure this wicked and eerie music would be a Blast on
stage! I’m positive, the material would come across excellent in case I got a
full line-up backing me up on all the featured instruments, so in any case I
absolutely have to get hold of some session people for that. Who knows? Perhaps
someday I will play live. If this project is the only one left alive in next
years I might just make it into my main band with a stable line-up, but for now
I treat it as an exclusive studio project, active about one time per year,
nothing more, but maybe less.
Looking
through the latest extreme music magazines, it's plain to see all the articles
expose the same old picture of you. «Tongue's out» as we call it. When did you
make the shoot? Were you teasing anybody or was is a medical examination?
It
was a shoot from the BEWITCHED tour back in 1996 during one of the countless
drunk moments on the tour bus. I just had to pick something for the press
really. «Tongue’s out» you say, ha ha???
The
latest KATATONIA album turned out to be a big shock for many fans... Would you
like to say anything about such dramatic changes? Were you really tired with
the heavy and brutal stuff? HOW DID IT HAPPEN?
Well,
we felt this turned out to be the natural direction to proceed into. I mean,
we’ve now come so far in our own musical journey that we’ve ended up finding
enough inspiration in ourselves to get going. We’ve come to a new point. When
we started out, we took a lot of direct influence from our favorite bands at
the time, but the situation today is totally different. If you take a closer
look at our new album, you’ll see that the entire piece is related to our own
beings. «Discouraged Ones» is an expression of what we’ve been through the last
couple of years. We managed to channel our misery into creativity and did an
album upon that. This is how our personalities sound like...This is us! With
«Discouraged Ones» we did not compromise! We’ve always put down our very souls
into what we do and obviously this album speaks the language of ourselves in
our current position and mental state. Regarding the vocal change. Well, we’ve
been using "harsh" vocals for over seven years now and we felt that
they couldn’t keep up with the pace our music evolved. Nothing new has really
been happening on the vocal front while we’ve gone through some real musical
changes from release to release and we felt this was it. We could no longer
accept this repeating itself as the new songs definitely needed something
beyond growls so, we started experimenting with clean, harmonic vocals and
discovered it would bring a new edge to our sound. We decided to go full circle
and it turned out be a perfect move which helped us from stagnating in
ourselves. I still love the old style, but it’s something we have completed and
passed, through progression.
Sorry
for telling you, but lately we heard a lot of rumors suggesting that you have
become a sort of «trend guy», you prefer to follow trends neglecting real roots
of extreme music. Some even say you have become a «star». What do you personally
think of these facts?
Facts,
ha ha??? Well, isn’t it time for a documentary on the subject then? All these
damn people never cease to surprise you. The next rumors are more amusing than
the last...
OK!
There is more coming... Take that: there are rumors that you have a king-size
bed and you listen to music lying on it. Would you care to comment?
Well,
considering how you put the question, I assume I ought to be lying on the
floor??? King-size bed? King-size dick? Is there really anyone who gives a
shit?!?!?!?
I
guess there are some who would like to... Concerning «king-size dick»... Well,
may be Playboy magazine asked you the question, not me!.. What is you life
credo?
Avoid
you freaks....
Oh
no! We have got some more questions to ask you before you get rid of us, ha ha!
Do you have any hobbies aside from music? How do you spend your leisure?
I
spend it on the king-size bed, ha ha!
Are
you married?
No.
Is
there a place for drugs and alcohol in your life?
Yeah
yeah, of course...
What
is your greatest fear?
To
see the ideals of life break apart.
A lot of young musicians would
like to know how well should they play their instruments to be able to create
their own band?
Well, to just form a band a
person can be bad as hell, because it’s by jamming with a band you progress and
grow as a musician and learn and gather experience. I’d say the question should
be, how well should a young musician play his instrument to be able to release
an album. Well, it’s a fact that many
albums released today should have been demos back in ?91. Too many labels give
bands the opportunity to do something they’re not ready for and with too many
immature albums by new-started bands the essence or the dignity of releasing an
album is terminated. Releasing an album is something that should be looked upon
as something very special. Releasing your very own album used to be and should
be a dream, not a substitute for a fucking demo. For that is truly reality, the
yesterday's demo-scene has become today’s CD-scene.
What
would you like to say to all your numerous fans in Russia?
Well,
listen up Demons! Meanwhile I’m preparing something new here inside the
MASQUERADE I suggest you lay your hands on "Nightwork" for now and
pray, it’ll perhaps plunge you into the darkside....
Dmitry
Basik