"HYPOCRISY Is Just a
Hobby!"
(This interview is provided by LEGION magazine)
This was not the first time we
talked to Peter Tagtgren. Since our last conversation he has managed to become
not merely a world-wide respected musician of death-capella HYPOCRISY and a
couple of side-projects, but also the most popular European producer of extreme
heavy-metal… Frankly speaking, we wanted to boil our conversation down to just
his studio activity, and believe us: there’s much to talk about. However, Peter
never accepted such a “boiling” as having released the two new albums, he
couldn’t but talk about them either.
As far as I know Peter, you
have just quitted the studio. Am I right?
Yeah! I just have finished up
AMON AMART, MARDUK and right now I am working on PAIN.
One of your projects?
The only project.
Really? What has happened to
THE ABYSS?
We don’t think we can top
that. So, we don’t even try.
Why did you decide to stop
that black metal project? Black metal is not in vogue anymore?
The only thing is that we
don’t think we can do a better album than the previous one.
So, no future for you as a
black metal musician?
Well, it was fun to do, we
were happy with the last album. But…The PAIN album will come out in September
on Universal Polygram. This time the album is much more industrial, it’s not
the same band anymore. It’s just me, sitting fucking around the studio, you
know.
Your latest album was actually
titled “Cloned”. Why have you changed it for “Hypocrisy”? It doesn’t sound too
“modest”, does it?
Well, we saw that a few bands
came up with this name and it was no sense for us to use it.
You say that each album must
be better than the previous one for you. What is “better” in your thinking?
Er-r-r…As musicians I think we
have grown much better. Also the writing process has also developed, ‘cos we
think we write much better songs today than we did before. And we are happier
with ourselves, because otherwise we would not do it anymore.
However, some of your fans
think that your first albums were much better. What is “better” for you is
“worse” for them. Did you ever think about this part of your followers?
I don’t know. Just look at how
the albums were doing: the first two albums did nothing! We have to develop, we
can’t just sit still. The latest albums are doing very good, and that proves
that we are doing right. That proves that we are choosing the right way.
PARADISE LOST, TIAMAT… Are you
talking about the commercial direction?
No.
I wonder how you find time for
HYPOCRISY, studio, solo projects?
I just go by schedule. I
really have to plan my life a year ahead all the time. So nothing can come
in-between. ‘Cos I have a family, I have a kid and I want to be sure that I
spend time with them too. That’s how I do it.
By the way, how are things
going on in your studio these days?
The things are going on pretty
well. There are a lot of good bands recording in the studio. It’s super cool,
couldn’t have been better!
Isn’t it a surprise for you
that Abyss studio has become so popular and so prestigious among metal bands?
Yeah, for sure. I didn’t
expect that! It’s a dream come true.
May I assume that the studio
is your main occupations nowadays?
Yes. HYPOCRISY is just a
hobby! It’s my studio that’s my job, that I care about the most.
Working with different
musicians, with different styles means that you do have to know what each
particular band wants from you. How does it come that you know what to give to
each band?
Well, I don’t really sit home
thinking what I should do with next band that comes in! It usually starts with
drums and making sound for that. If the band is pleased with that, we try to
keep on going with the guitars and so on. Each band has its style, so it helps
to create a different sounding for every album.
What bands are the easiest to
work with?
IMMORTAL are very easy to work
with. They just come in, I come up with my ideas and they are usually totally
into them, you know. We work very fine. I mean, it always comes to some differences
when it comes to mixing. For example, should the guitar be louder or the drums
should be louder. That was the case when we did DIMMU BORGIR album. Well, you
have to be very stubborn and really know what you want.
Do you argue a lot with the
musicians?
No, no!
For example, you are sure that
the drums should be louder, but the musicians want the guitars to be louder. What
compromise do you come to?
Then I will go with the band. I
do what they wanna do because it’s their money they pay for the recording. But
I will still say “You shouldn’t have done this or that”. And sometimes, when
they get CDs, they say “Yeah, may be you were right”.
Some musicians like to enter
studio being drunk for some “inspiration”. Sometimes they make parties during
the recording sessions. Is it the case with your studio?
No! Some bands have to work
eight hours a day to record an album. Some bands have to work even at night. They
do not have a lot of time for that.
Is your studio really
expensive? I heard it is.
No, no comparing to others. My
studio it pretty much acceptable for the most bands. Some studios raise their
prices and then lose their customers.
Do you have the same prices
for everybody?
Well, I just ask to pay me in
advance, and then I knock off some ten percent or twenty percent, whatever. But
usually it’s the same price for everybody.
Being an experienced studio
engineer, what would you suggest to bands not familiar with studio work?
Bring a CD with you. The CD
that you think has a good sound. And then you can switch between your music and
the CD. Surely, it’s hard to get the exact sound, but I mean you have an
example then.
What is the most common
mistake that bands make coming to studio?
Well, some people freak out
when they play wrong many times, but then I tell them to make it easy, we’ll
get it done.
“The Final Chapter” album was
supposed to be the last album for your band. Excuse me for my cynicism, but why
didn’t you stop?
It was supposed to be, as I
was kinda burnt out, tired of having done everything myself. But it changed for
the better now. We took a very long vacation, everybody was sitting home and
writing new songs.
So, are you going to continue
HYPOCRISY for at least a few years more?
Yeah,
sure!