The Swedish death metal belt
line works round the clock, flooding the already saturated market with hundreds
of new bands. While the label «Made in Sweden» gives many journalists creeps,
the just appeared WITCHERY produces a quite favorable impression. This name
still doesn’t sound familiar though the band may boast with well-known
musicians. The interviewed guitarist Patrik Jensen once played in Swedish band
SEANCE, and now besides WITCHERY rams the guitar in a widely advertised THE
HAUNTED. The bass player CH D plays in MERCYFUL FATE. The rest of the guys once
played in the same old SEANCE, lately given the name SATANIC SLAUGHTER. We
strongly recommend to you the «Restless And Dead» album and on occasion want
you to meet the Swedish debutantes.
I guess it is the first
interview you are giving to a Russian or Polish magazine?
Poland is a very «strong»
country when it comes to metal music. We have got so many letters from Poland! We
really have to go there and play. In my another band THE HAUNTED rehearsal room
there’s a Polish flag hanging on the wall with the inscription «AT THE GATES». So
every time we rehearse, we see the Polish flag on the wall and look forward to
go there and play.
OK, look forward to see you
some day in Poland and Russia! When listening to your debut album I got really
confused with defining the style of your music. One can go nuts when after the
old school metal there comes an AC/DC riff featured by black metal vocals!
WITCHERY blends the old school
metal of 1983 with the one of 1987. In 1983 we had «Bark In The Moon» and in
1987 we had thrash with TESTAMENT and may be even DEATH with «Leprosy» and so
on. But actually one of the things we like the most is that nobody can tell us
what we play. I have heard everything from black to rock ‘n roll. We write the
songs in a very short period of time. The «Restless And Dead» album was written
in two weeks. And you have that short time you have basically use every good
riff you can come up with. So if you come up with a good riff that sounds a bit
like black metal and you have a good thrash riff or something that sounds like
even AC/DC we put it all together. It makes a good song.
But does your experimenting
with different styles mean you don’t have your own style?
This will be our style. Journalists
do not know what to expect from each song. And I don’t think the album is
boring because it has different influences. We write songs because of the pure
enthusiasm, we don’t try to follow any trends or anything. And I think that the
fact that we use different kinds of styles will make people think like: «Oh,
this could be a WITCHERY song.» Actually we have made our own style but we
don’t know how to call it.
You must be inspired by
different sorts of music if you write songs in different styles...
I took a lot of inspiration on
the album from MERCYFUL FATE «Don’t Break The Oath» album, a lot from EXODUS
«Bonded By Blood», and I guess also some BATHORY «Under The Sign Of The Black
Mark». Everything is in there. If we have a good sounding black metal riff we
don’t stop. We can even have a Kirk Hammet kind of solo!
I think you have found a
perfect way out: are on the safe side ‘cos you rely on the extreme music as a
whole! Meanwhile lots of bands complain that the music they play becomes
unpopular. You always stay afloat.
Yeah, this might be very wise.
Hopefully we will reach every kind of metal fan. There’s always one or two
songs of each style.
WITCHERY - is a rather new
name in the metal scene. Let’s talk about the early days of your band’s career
so that our readers could get a better idea of you.
We used to be a band called
SATANIC SLAUGHTER. And Stephen, the guy in the band who had the right for the
name was supposed to sing on the first album. But he never rehearsed with us. We
did everything, we recorded everything in the studio. But he never practiced
and he couldn’t record the vocals. He did not have any voice! So Tonny, the
guitar player, got angry. He took all the lyrics and sang the whole album in
two hours. So we were like: «Oh, what is this? Unbelievable!» Then we were
supposed to record a mini cover CD. We wrote all the song and there were two
weeks before the recording. Then Stephen
who was very unhappy as he was not even on the first album, fired all of us. So
there stayed the four of us, we had booked the studio and we had the songs. We
had to record them but with another name. So we called our band WITCHERY, found
a new bass player and recorded our first album. There’s also a recorded mini CD
that comes afterwards.
It
seems to me you really like the Middle Ages with its grim atmosphere and
alchemy and witchhunts?
Actually
if you look at the bands that I have been in - THE HAUNTED, SEANCE and WITCHERY,
it’s all the same, ha-ha! I guess I am very fascinated by ghosts or something.
I think WITCHERY is a very suitable name for us and it has a ringing in its
name. And I don’t know any other band with the same name. It’s an «easy» name
and it’s not a stupid one like DIMMU BORGIR...
You
dislike DIMMU BORGIR?
Yes,
I think they are a bit too «soft» for me. I am sure they are very nice guys but
their music doesn’t appeal to me.
It
seems to me that your fascination by ghosts have taken also place in your
lyrics?
I
wrote the lyrics in the studio, in two or three days. Well, I see WITCHERY as a
sort of entertaining band. We don’t sing songs with mottoes «Stop cutting the
trees!». So being a metal band we prefer that horror thing. And we also use the
titles that are recognizable for people who have been into the metal scene. I
mean we have a song called «The House Of Rain In Blood». What band would use
the title of «Rain In Blood» after SLAYER? It intimates SLAYER so much! But our
song doesn’t sound at all like SLAYER. And we also have the title «Restless And
Dead», it’s ACCEPT «Restless And Wild». People that has been in the scene will
recognize it. Hopefully we put the smile on our faces as they recognize it.
But
don’t you think that some people might believe you are just clowning, cracking
jokes about music?
We
are very serious as a band. This is not to make fun of the music. This is our
way to show how much we appreciate it! I’d be happy if there were more bands
like this.
How
did you manage to sign a record deal?
I
knew Paul from Necropolis since ’91 before SAENCE signed to Black Mark. We’ve
always been good friends and he always wanted to put out something we played.
SATANIC SLAUGHTER was put out by Necropolis. Necropolis is the best label I
have ever been on. All the other companies are very strange, are very wired,
when you call them on the phone they are never there, you can never get any
straight answer, there’s always no money. Just last week I got my copy of the
THE HAUNTED album! And it’s been out for several months! It’s unbelievable!
Necropolis takes care about these things.
I
think labels have become a sort of problem child for musicians lately. It’s so
easy to sign a contract with a label nowadays but it’s also so easy to be
deceived!
Have
you ever heard of Earache? They are the biggest clowns on the face of the
Earth! Not so long ago we toured with NAPALM DEATH. Peter, the vocalist of THE
HAUNTED, made some kind of joke on the stage and the owner of Earache Dig
Pearson took it very personal and he sent the fax where he said he was going to
kill Peter. And he sent the faxes everywhere! So he has beaten Peter to the
death. So now we have got the chance to get off the label.
What
could you say about the underground labels in general?
You
know, there are good ones and bad ones. The bad thing about them is that they
don’t have money or they don’t have people to get your album out in the stores.
But the good thing is that they work as the label because they love the music.
And they work very hard. And they are not likely to rip you off. If you are on
a big label, like for instance SLAYER, they are on Sony Music right now, the
world’s biggest label. And you know how many albums they sold in Sweden? Eight
hundred!!!
Gosh!!!
It’s
stupid! Nobody knows about SLAYER in Sweden. Everybody is satisfied with Bruce
Springsteen. So if you are on a huge label that isn’t always good ‘cos you get
lost.
Then,
being a rather experienced musician, could you recommend anything to young
bands? How can they tell the bad label from the good one?
Take
into the consideration the amount of bullshit on the paper. I have seen
contracts that are very thick and the only thing they do is tie you up for the
whole future. If the contract is for one album, it may have options. It means
that if you put out one album then the second album you have to offer to the
same company. They don’t have to take it but usually they do. So I have signed
a contract for one album but there are nine in option! And if the band is very
good and it sells more and more with every album, but it is still on the first
contract like if it were a new band! The band gets the money as a demo band. So
the less options you have, the better. Options are not good. And another thing
is that you should have the freedom to play in other band. And you should also
have the right to your own merchandise. ‘Cos that has nothing to do with
records. I can’t believe why record companies are supposed to get all the money
if you sell T-shirts! That’s strange. Why? Earache makes a lot of money from
that.
And
how much money should a band receive from a copy sold?
That’s
very individual ‘cos one album can cost like a thousand US dollars and the
other can cost like a hundred thousand. It’s rather difficult to answer this
question.
But
is it possible to be an underground band and earn enough money for living?
No,
I don’t think so. I think bands like HAMMERFALL can live on it but they sell a
hundred thousand records. You have to sell quite a lot to be able to live on
it.
Rather
often labels would impose their rights and musical tastes on musicians. Have
you ever experienced such cases?
I
don’t think such cases take place in metal underground. It’s truer when you
have a band that is on the top of the charts like SPICE GIRLS. Say, they want
to record a reggie song but they are told that they can’t do that as that won’t
be right. They have to do a ballad.
I
guess Necropolis never did things like that?
No!
You know what? Necropolis even never heard a demo from us! They just trusted
me! I said it would be good and they paid the studio and released the CD.
Well,
could you advise any good tips for making a good deal with a label to our
readers?
It’s
a rather common thing if you sign a deal with a foreign label. In Sweden there
are many bands but there are few record companies. Most of them are in Germany
or in the US. A good thing when you send a demo is that you should always have
the best song recorded first. I’ve been to Black Mark, I’ve been to Earache, I
have been to Necropolis - they get twenty or thirty demos a day. And small
companies are very busy, they don’t have time to listen to an eight-track demo.
It’s better to take three best songs and put the absolutely best song first.
May be they will just listen thirty seconds if you are lucky! Then if it is not
good, they would throw it away and never listen to it again. If the first
twenty-thirty seconds are good, they might listen to another song.
You
have already been in the underground scene for a rather long time, you have
seen a lot. What about the competition between the bands and their attitudes to
each other?
When I started out in 1987
everybody got together, everybody was drinking with each other after shows. But
then the situation changed, musicians began to argue, saying like: «Oh, I can
play faster, I can play that solo better.» Hopefully we’ll get back to the
place where everybody helps everybody. I
don’t know about the situation in Poland, but here in Sweden everybody is in a
band and there’s a competition here.
You
have already mentioned that you are releasing a mini CD in the near future...
The
mini CD will be called «Witch Burner». And it has four cover tracks and three
original WITCHERY songs. We covered ACCEPT, JUDAS PRIEST, W.A.S.P. and BLACK
SABBATH. The mini CD will be released in April or March. And we have already
recorded another full length album. We work fast! It’ll be called «Dead, Hot
And Ready» like the PRETTY MAIDS album «Red, Hot And Heavy»...
OK!
And finally, do you have anything to say to all true heavy metal fans in
Russia?
I
want to thank them because they are true heavy metal fans. And we would love to
play in your country!